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	<title>Comments on: TurboGears</title>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/09/17/turbogears/#comment-2634</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, of course I've tried nevow.  It's not the same kind of product.  It's great for doing web stuff with Twisted, but:

- You need to restart the server to reload code
- I don't really like the templating language as much as Kid or TAL
- It doesn't have enough polish (documentation, examples, nice web presence)

That said, if I have a need for Twisted I'll generally be using nevow (or even just twisted.web).. but that's not really an option for most people.  I can't go to a freelance developer who is mostly experienced with something like PHP and tell them to use Nevow and expect them to make a deadline... but I think there's a chance that I could with something like TurboGears (with a little help on Kid and Python syntax) given the excellent documentation and the "target demographic" being more than just hardcore Twisted hackers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, of course I&#8217;ve tried nevow.  It&#8217;s not the same kind of product.  It&#8217;s great for doing web stuff with Twisted, but:</p>
<p>- You need to restart the server to reload code<br />
- I don&#8217;t really like the templating language as much as Kid or TAL<br />
- It doesn&#8217;t have enough polish (documentation, examples, nice web presence)</p>
<p>That said, if I have a need for Twisted I&#8217;ll generally be using nevow (or even just twisted.web).. but that&#8217;s not really an option for most people.  I can&#8217;t go to a freelance developer who is mostly experienced with something like PHP and tell them to use Nevow and expect them to make a deadline&#8230; but I think there&#8217;s a chance that I could with something like TurboGears (with a little help on Kid and Python syntax) given the excellent documentation and the &#8220;target demographic&#8221; being more than just hardcore Twisted hackers :)</p>
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		<title>By: duncan</title>
		<link>http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/09/17/turbogears/#comment-2633</link>
		<dc:creator>duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried nevow? It does use Twisted but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried nevow? It does use Twisted but I&#8217;d be interested to hear your thoughts.</p>
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